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and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their accusations straight. somebody on -- one of the leaders of the republican party out there in wisconsin said all the votes were fraudulent votes, they were all stolen. and now he's out there, the presidential candidate, saying they were all bought. and now this guy is -- i have to say to paul ryan, he was just surprised they showed up. he hasn't quite figured out the motive yet. >> i think the romney campaign obviously didn't take into account the huge turnout that the president got. that was one of the problems with their polling. >> is that why they're looking
and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their...
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ryan well paul ryan in the inner city would be awesome. by a lot but it's not him he did it. yeah it was very widely used in the democratic the democratic coalition is held together by sort of this marriage of power in materialism so the people who crave power give money to the people who want the money of the people who like money of the agree to give power and so it's that's that is sort of that's a rather pejorative way it is saying it is pejorative but that happens to have saying that the democratic party is held together by a coalition of people who believe that governance our governance has a purpose and part of that will result in making sure that there's a social safety net that people don't get to people fall through the cracks and destroy themselves if if god forbid they get sick or they get or they're unemployed if you see a race to the bottom i'll say bingo. it's like it's a you always you assume it's like the the fact is that romney was what our romney was talking about economics and he was talking about almost greed buttons i
ryan well paul ryan in the inner city would be awesome. by a lot but it's not him he did it. yeah it was very widely used in the democratic the democratic coalition is held together by sort of this marriage of power in materialism so the people who crave power give money to the people who want the money of the people who like money of the agree to give power and so it's that's that is sort of that's a rather pejorative way it is saying it is pejorative but that happens to have saying that the...
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. >> i just spoke with governor romney and i congratulated him and paul ryan on a hard fought campaign. >> reporter: with the 2012 election barely in the rearview mirror, we're already thinking about the next road to the white house. marco rubio heads to iowa next weekend to headline a republican event. does the popular gop senator from florida have designs on running for the next republican nomination? a source close to rubio says that kind of talk is way too premature. but ads about the state that kicks off the presidential caucus and primary calendar, it's always good to have friends in iowa. rubio is just one name in a large list of republicans who may consider runs for the white house. they include governors chris christie of new jersey, bob mcdonald and scott walker of wisconsin, ran paul of kentucky and john thune of south dakota, jeb bush of florida, former senator rick santorum who battled mitt romney deep into the primary, former governor mike huckabee who ran for president four years ago and the past two republican running mates, congressman paul ryan and former alaska gover
. >> i just spoke with governor romney and i congratulated him and paul ryan on a hard fought campaign. >> reporter: with the 2012 election barely in the rearview mirror, we're already thinking about the next road to the white house. marco rubio heads to iowa next weekend to headline a republican event. does the popular gop senator from florida have designs on running for the next republican nomination? a source close to rubio says that kind of talk is way too premature. but ads...
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while was he at it, paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it, but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also reelected the house republicans. see, i think these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. this is a very close election. >> there is now nothing other than time in the gym that separates paul ryan and rush limbaugh. >> we're just laying down! and we didn't lose this election by that much, especially when you look at the turnout. this was not a shellacking landslide. >> this is what rush limbaugh used to think it meant when a presidential candidate won 332 electoral college votes and he thought this right up until the day be
while was he at it, paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it, but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now...
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>> i thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. without he have been more successful if he had gone for somebody else? >> that is second guessing i don't know. instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 25 or 40. the facts are we didn't make it. he have a good person, smart guy. who would you like to see in 16 of all of the current candidates? >> i'll tell you, who is the kinder person? jeb bush? >> can i bush do it again? i don't know. >> maybe against a clinton. >> what i want more than anything is to bring this thing together. i want you to ask people about the regulatory wall. if we don't get natural gas and oil out there. we have a chance to make this the american century. if we have are the low cost energy producer in the world. america can have it. i've said before, this is the internet of this century now. it is a huge opportunity. we are in the first inning. >> well, great to talk to you. thank you for coming in. you volunteered yourself good to see you again. when we come back, latest from the storm zo
>> i thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. without he have been more successful if he had gone for somebody else? >> that is second guessing i don't know. instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 25 or 40. the facts are we didn't make it. he have a good person, smart guy. who would you like to see in 16 of all of the current candidates? >> i'll tell you, who is the kinder person? jeb bush? >> can i bush do it again? i don't know. >> maybe...
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my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked at the landscape, do you see any likelihood that members will be able to come together and work on climate change and tax reform? >> i do. i'm opt miss triimistic that we go over the fiscal cliff that you better not let us do this that you are going to throw us into a recession next year. they are not crazy. they will act out of some sense of the national interest here. you have to be careful not to isolate the question of tax hikes on the wealthy. you need to put that question into a broader framework. how do we raise revenues. and how do we get spending down through en
my big question is what role does paul ryan play in all of this. he is a national figure and said no new taxes and john boehner is going to have to try and lead compromises in his caucus. >> do you see the prom prcompro possible? >> here is the thing. in the olden days i used to say, you know what they are going to end up doing the wrong thing. i know longer think that. i believe they could retreat into their corners. it is into their self interest to get things done. as you looked...
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i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten -- instead of getting 27% of the latino vote, you may have gotten 35 or 40. you still may not have made it. the facts are, we didn't make it. and we had as good a candidate as we're going to -- surely the best candidate in the field. we have a good guy, a good person. a smart guy -- >> who would you like to see in '16 of all the current candidates? >> i'll tell you -- in about 48 hours. >> who's the kind of person? >> marco rubio is an appealing guy. i think he's a centrist. he can deal with changing demographics. >> jeb bush? >> can a bush do it again? i don't know if the coun
i always thought paul ryan was a big risk as a vp. it didn't cover any other base, any other demographic. would he have been bolder and braver, had he gone for marco rubio or condoleezza rice? somebody a bit different from paul ryan, he looked like a younger version of mitt romney? >> you know, that's second guessing and i don't know. >> the vice president won his home state. >> he's been a district guy, if you will. >> in hindsight, marco rubio may have gotten --...
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the paul ryan budget passed a pretty big test. we had to run around the country and defend it. the ryan budget proved itself a viable platform on which to run and be reelected. wow. just to reiterate, this is what happened on election night. how does this constitute the ryan budget passing a big test. it took a big test but it did not pass that test, two very deficit things. the lesson of this election for republicans appears to be all that stuff we ran on, it totally worked. think about what determines what the republican party does next. what determines how they fix their political problems. the question of who is going to be the new face of the republican party and how they will course correct after this disastrously bad election for them, it all depends how they assess what just went wrong and why it went so wrong. what do they think their problem is that caused the country to reject them so emphatically in 2012. the signs how their self-assessment is going so far are not promising. wednesday, the day after the election, mr. romney had breakfast with some of his richest don
the paul ryan budget passed a pretty big test. we had to run around the country and defend it. the ryan budget proved itself a viable platform on which to run and be reelected. wow. just to reiterate, this is what happened on election night. how does this constitute the ryan budget passing a big test. it took a big test but it did not pass that test, two very deficit things. the lesson of this election for republicans appears to be all that stuff we ran on, it totally worked. think about what...
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can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what do you think she's going to do? any word? >> i have no idea. no idea. >> thank you for your honesty. go get me a cup of coffee. >> did you watch this program yesterday? debbie wassermann schultz said she's staying. most of the people i talk to say she's staying. i think her body language yesterday when she was sparring with the press a little bit suggest she's staying. and if we're wrong, i won't be here tomorrow. >> let's go back to congressman ryan and his comments. the interesting thing that president obama did yesterday,
can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what...
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this morning, i saw my friend, congressman paul ryan. we talked a little bit this morning. you know what the first thing he reminded me, he said luis, i was a cosponsor of your original comprehensive immigration bill along with other republicans. we had a wonderful conversation. i'm not committing him to anything on this program. we had a wonderful conversation but the fact is there are republicans who don't -- who look at the election, including paul ryan who are saying you know what? i used to be on the bill. luis, maybe you and i should have a conversation. i look forward -- there are many, many republicans who don't have the view that mitt romney has. they're look at ways to expand their party and to have a different politics in america. >> eliot: look, there are some republicans who never had that view. some republicans who had that view who may be changing for political reasons. that's okay. it is going to succeed. >> you know what ryan told me? i'm not going to do it because it's political. he said i want to do it because it the right thing to do. i think that speaks
this morning, i saw my friend, congressman paul ryan. we talked a little bit this morning. you know what the first thing he reminded me, he said luis, i was a cosponsor of your original comprehensive immigration bill along with other republicans. we had a wonderful conversation. i'm not committing him to anything on this program. we had a wonderful conversation but the fact is there are republicans who don't -- who look at the election, including paul ryan who are saying you know what? i used...
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i know paul ryan. paul ryan is not a liar. and with mitt romney, the whole question about the jeeps, there's a dispute whether chrysler, which owns jeeps jeep is going to have to go to italy. there's a story about that. on the china issue overall for romney, that was an issue that didn't work. there are issues that poll well, but when you try to rely on them in a campaign, they just don't get you any votes. i think china is one of them. host: we'll go to jim on the republican line. you're on with fred barnes of the "weekly standard." caller: hi. i was going to say i believe what the lady on the republican line said earlier. that republicans don't need to change. we need the conservative stand, and the biggest problem is that i believe the country is getting to the point that they are so dependant on the handouts of the government that that's what they are looking for. they are looking for a liberal, somebody that's willing to give them anything they want. guest: john, i have to say -- it is john? caller: jim. guest: i have to
i know paul ryan. paul ryan is not a liar. and with mitt romney, the whole question about the jeeps, there's a dispute whether chrysler, which owns jeeps jeep is going to have to go to italy. there's a story about that. on the china issue overall for romney, that was an issue that didn't work. there are issues that poll well, but when you try to rely on them in a campaign, they just don't get you any votes. i think china is one of them. host: we'll go to jim on the republican line. you're on...
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. >> reporter: the president will also still have to work directly with paul ryan. who won re-election in wisconsin as a representative, while losing the race for vice president. but this new congress will have a new feel. wins by senator-elect elizabeth warren of massachusetts and tammy baldwin the first openly gay senator from wisconsin are helping women reach historic numbers and influence. >> women have been the bastion of bipartisanship in the senate, we'll see if that its true with the new crop of wichl in who are a little more from the extremes of their parties than the women they're replacing. >> the republican speaker of the house said that even he wants to do everything that he can to help barack obama succeed. but not as a liberal and not as a conservative, rather as the president of the united states and some one who can bring everyone together. live on capitol hill, mark greenblat, abc news. rob, paula, back to you. >> fingers crossed there can be bipartisanship this time around with the fiscal cliff around the corner. mark in terms of mr. obama's big w
. >> reporter: the president will also still have to work directly with paul ryan. who won re-election in wisconsin as a representative, while losing the race for vice president. but this new congress will have a new feel. wins by senator-elect elizabeth warren of massachusetts and tammy baldwin the first openly gay senator from wisconsin are helping women reach historic numbers and influence. >> women have been the bastion of bipartisanship in the senate, we'll see if that its true...
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for viis former vp form knee, paul ryan, at the top of the list. >> leadership matters. >> reporter: chris christie passed on a 2012 run, but 2016 could be a different story. there is a florida duo, marco rubio and former governor jeb bush. >> the republican candidates for president of the united states. don't forget those who fell short this go around. no word on the presidential prospects of michelle bachmann, rick perry or herman cane. expect focus on rick santorum who gave mitt romney a run for his money in the primary. i guess it's never too early to start talking about what could be a jam packed 2016 election cycle. >> if you have not had enough of politics this week, check out square off this sunday morning , the round table discussion show hosted by rich chair. everything from the election to the fiscal cliff battle. square off airs here on abc 2 at 11:00 a.m. sunday. >>> they have dogs and ducks and paintings and posts. >> you can always take in a spectacular view in easton, wyatt everhart is here with more on the water foul festival. where is our fox? is that fox going to m
for viis former vp form knee, paul ryan, at the top of the list. >> leadership matters. >> reporter: chris christie passed on a 2012 run, but 2016 could be a different story. there is a florida duo, marco rubio and former governor jeb bush. >> the republican candidates for president of the united states. don't forget those who fell short this go around. no word on the presidential prospects of michelle bachmann, rick perry or herman cane. expect focus on rick santorum who gave...
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paul ryan's a policy wonk. he's involved in the cause of trying to bring us pro-growth, economic agenda to america and making sure that we're doing this in a fiscally responsible way. >> reporter: there have been a lot of republican comments, rush limbaugh said -- >> i went to bed last night saying we've lost the country. >> reporter: we lost the country, we're outnumbered. it's been said that the party has gotten too old, too white, too male. those are his words. is that right? >> well, i think what republicans need to learn is how do we speak to all americans? you know, not just the people who look like us and act like us, but how do we speak to all americans? >> the powerful speaker of the house of representatives, john boehner. that was just today and i'm here now with jonathan karl, who has covered the campaign, coverers congress for us. what did you hear? >> reporter: he said raising tax rates is unacceptable. there is an entirely different view of that on the other side of the aisle and at the white hous
paul ryan's a policy wonk. he's involved in the cause of trying to bring us pro-growth, economic agenda to america and making sure that we're doing this in a fiscally responsible way. >> reporter: there have been a lot of republican comments, rush limbaugh said -- >> i went to bed last night saying we've lost the country. >> reporter: we lost the country, we're outnumbered. it's been said that the party has gotten too old, too white, too male. those are his words. is that...
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not mitt romney and not paul ryan, but karl rove. mr. rove took mornd $300 million from conservative donors on a promise that he would deliver mitt romney to the white house. sadly for mr. rove and painfully for his donors, it didn't quite work out. joining us now is rick tyler, who is a former spokesman for the great newt gingrich and he also worked on the senate campaign for todd akin, and ken vogel is chief investigative reporter for politico. if i can start with you, rick, you make an appearance in ken's extensive story calling karl rove a colossal failure and then you say this, i don't think donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out the architect didn't know what he was talking about. what do you mean, that karl rove didn't know what he was talking about, mr. tyler? >> well, karl rove makes great tv and he's interesting to read in "the wall street journal," but after karl rove lost the gingrich majority, i always questioned karl rove. remember, karl rove was the one who designed the second bush campaig
not mitt romney and not paul ryan, but karl rove. mr. rove took mornd $300 million from conservative donors on a promise that he would deliver mitt romney to the white house. sadly for mr. rove and painfully for his donors, it didn't quite work out. joining us now is rick tyler, who is a former spokesman for the great newt gingrich and he also worked on the senate campaign for todd akin, and ken vogel is chief investigative reporter for politico. if i can start with you, rick, you make an...
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this is the odd thing, everybody said paul ryan's a numbers guy. well, no, he's not, because first off, if he was shocked that the president, a democrat, did well in urban areas, he hasn't been following politics for the last hundred years. but he also, i looked up a couple of interesting counties that i like to look at. dubuque, iowa, they filmed the movie "field of dreams" there. barack obama won. he won henrico county, a very classic suburban county in virginia which is the home of eric cantor, the republican house majority leader, and in wisconsin, get this, barack obama overwhelmingly won rock county, wisconsin, which -- whose biggest town in janesville which is paul ryan's hometown and home county. i have been there, i have walked the gritty streets of janesville. it's not actually all that urban. and how can he be this dumb is the only question i've got. >> alex, congressman ryan's comments miss the point on why he and mitt romney lost? >> no. it's ridiculous. this is one of the keys you look at and we were all looking at election night, was
this is the odd thing, everybody said paul ryan's a numbers guy. well, no, he's not, because first off, if he was shocked that the president, a democrat, did well in urban areas, he hasn't been following politics for the last hundred years. but he also, i looked up a couple of interesting counties that i like to look at. dubuque, iowa, they filmed the movie "field of dreams" there. barack obama won. he won henrico county, a very classic suburban county in virginia which is the home of...
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the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has been reelected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we have now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure b
the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point....
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paul ryan is he the leader of the republican party now? >> oh i wouldn't think so. paul ryan's a policy wonk. >> he's a policy wonk. basically right now i'm still the man. so how does speaker boehner, if he's the man and most reasonable guy in washington how does he get some of the conservatives, including even paul ryan a guy who is newly minted in some way with a little bit of juice, to come along? >> i think if you look at how this will actually unfold you find your answer tamron. the fact of the matter is a very small number of people will negotiate a deal or not. that includes speaker boehner. it includes majority leader reid and the white house. once they come up with a deal whatever it looks like it's going to be subject to an up or down vote. this isn't something you amend and say i'd like to offer an amendment to change that tax bracket. no, no. it's an up or down vote. at that point the pressure on the republican caucus will be overwhelming. you're going to find that plenty of members of congress from the republican party who are
paul ryan is he the leader of the republican party now? >> oh i wouldn't think so. paul ryan's a policy wonk. >> he's a policy wonk. basically right now i'm still the man. so how does speaker boehner, if he's the man and most reasonable guy in washington how does he get some of the conservatives, including even paul ryan a guy who is newly minted in some way with a little bit of juice, to come along? >> i think if you look at how this will actually unfold you find your answer...
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speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation
speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you...